OVERCOMIN' CHILD OF GOD: Following a near fatal battle with cancer, veteran Gospel rocker Carman Licciardello has emerged victorious, and has returned to the concert stage in support of his just released CD, No Plan B. Licciardello is pictured above at right with Blitz's Michael and Audrey McDowell after his triumphant appearance in Monroe, Michigan on 30 July. Click on the Carman Licciardello Concert Review link at right under Previous Posts for the full story. (Photo C&P 2014 Blitz Magazine. All rights reserved).


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NOW ON BLITZ MAGAZINE'S WEB SITE: Legendary WKNR Key Man Of Music Jerry Goodwin reveals the details of the  reunion of his fellow Keener 13 veterans in New York City. First generation garage rock legend and Arrows co-founder Davie Allan discusses the highlights of his half century in the spotlight. Plus an interview with country music and punk rock visionary Hank Williams III (also known as Hank3).


Vocal group pioneers Apo Hiking Society have ended their four year sabbatical with a return to the concert stage, beginning with live dates in Singapore in mid-July. Eighty-four year old Perth, Western Australia native and immensely respected singer/songwriter Rolf Harris has been sentenced to five years and nine months in a U.K. prison, stemming from decades-old charges of sexual abuse. Legendary rocker Dinah Lee discusses the making of her new single, in a Blitz Magazine exclusive. Long time Guess Who front man and principal tunesmith, Burton Cummings has issued a statement warning against attending Guess Who shows performed a pick up band led by original Guess Who bassist, Jim Kale. Vocal legend Ronnie Dove has canceled his retirement plans after being miraculously healed from a debilitating disease. We pay tribute to legendary composer and producer Bob Crewe, guitar virtuosos Dick Wagner and Johnny Winter, original Ramones drummer Tommy Erdelyi, as well as the Cowsills' Richard Cowsill, and long time Columbia recording artist, Jerry Vale, plus Association guitarist Larry Ramos and Human Beings bassist Steve Fava of Because I Love Her fame. 


Beloved country music pioneer Stompin' Tom Connors is celebrated a year after his passing at age 77 with the first in a series of CDs featuring previously unreleased tracks and rarities. Legendary rocker Ral Donner is the subject of a new CD anthology on the Jasmine label, which chronicles his best work for the Scottie and Gone labels. Ash Wells' Sydney, New South Wales-based Teensville label has released the second volume of their acclaimed Bubbling Under series, featuring rare and obscure tracks by Neil Sedaka, the Tigers, Ed Rambeau, Tracey Dey, Gene Chandler, Baby Washington, Connie Francis, Johnnie Taylor, Bobby Rydell, the Chiffons, Freddy Cannon and others. Gear Fab Records spotlights rare first generation garage rock with the CD re-release of  rare LPs by the Firebirds and 31 Flavors.


In the New Releases section of The Shape Of Things To Come column, various members of established Doo Wop groups have joined forces to produce the all new Club Of Broken Hearts CD as the BrillianTears. Long time Blitz contributor John Mars weighs in on Electric Love, the new CD by Toronto, Ontario blues guitarist Jack de Keyzer. Washington-based singer, songwriter, arranger and composer Dana Countryman has taken his cue from some of the best veteran rockers in his all new collection for Sterling Swan Records, Pop! The Incredible, Fantastic Retro Pop World Of Dana Countryman.  Fifth generation garage rock aspirants the Cherry Drops make their debut with the ambitious Everything's Groovy. 



BUZZ SAW EFFECT: First generation garage rock legend, guitar virtuoso and Arrows co-founder Davie Allan (pictured above) discusses with Blitz Magazine many of the highlights of his half century in the spotlight, including the release of his recent Retrophonic CD collections. Editor/Publisher Michael McDowell has the story below (Click on above image to enlarge).


While not a prerequisite for long term aesthetic success, a substantial background as a musicologist and/or record collector has proven to be beneficial to the careers of many a veteran musician. To wit, Jive Five and Genies co-founder Eugene Sampson Pitt and long time Guess Who front man and keyboardsman, Burton Lorne Cummings are both highly respected for having excelled in both disciplines; an attribute that has served each of them more than well in their respective recording endeavors.

One such individual who has followed suit and to date has produced more than a half century’s worth of first rate material in both a featured and behind the scenes capacity is the Arrows’ lead guitarist and co-founder, Davie Allan. A graduate of Ulysses S. Grant High School in Van Nuys, California (whose roster of vaunted alumni includes Monkees drummer George Michael “Micky” Dolenz, Los Angeles Times veteran Barbara Harris and former Houston Astros pitcher, Thomas James Griffin), Allan appeased his passion for music while there as a member of the school choir.

In the Grant High School choir with Allan was Savannah, Georgia native and future Lieutenant Governor of California (from 1979 to 1983), Mike Curb. A fellow avid musicologist and record collector, Curb enlisted Allan’s services in 1962 for the purpose of recording demos.

By 1963, Curb (on keyboards) and Allan were performing with a drummer and three vocalists as the Jadetts, who made their recording debut shortly thereafter with Look To The Stars / Father Knows Best for guitar virtuoso Dick Dale’s Deltone label (Deltone 5022). Before long, Allan was enjoying an sizable amount of work as a guitarist, with sessions by such diverse artists as the Paris Sisters, Jerry Naylor, the Hondells, the Zanies (a studio band featuring Allan) and the late, great Terry Stafford (amongst others) to his credit.

In 1964, Curb founded the Sidewalk label. Sidewalk’s first release was the highly promising original, Blue Guitar, coupled with a remake of the Shadows/Jorgen Ingmann standard, Apache as Apache ’65.

That ambitious single marked the recording debut of the Arrows, the band by which Allan’s legacy would ultimately be defined. Curb leased the single to Capitol’s Tower subsidiary, who reissued it as Tower 116 and promptly followed suit in June 1965 with the band’s debut album, Apache ’65 (Tower DT-5002). 

Drawing from such diverse inspirations as Travis Wammack (Scratchy), Alvin Cash And The Crawlers (Twine Time) and both Bert Kaempfert and Vic Dana, by way of Vaughn Monroe (Red Roses For A Blue Lady), the Apache ’65 album (which included Curb on keyboards, Harlan Hatcher on rhythm guitar and Larry Brown as the drummer, and also included several promising Curb and Curb/Allan originals) by definition suggested that Allan was determined to bring diversity on a long term basis to a format with seemingly limited parameters.

"Steve Pugh was not on the Apache '65 album sessions", said Allan, in reference to the bassist that worked with the Arrows around that same time.

"He did play on Do The Freddie, the flip side of the Moondawg '65 single that I am re-recording with Larry Brown again on drums. (But I'm) not going to call it Moondawg '15!".

To that effect, although the Arrows’ line up (which throughout the decades included such notables as Russ Viot, Drew Bennett, Lee Joseph and David Winogrond) was from the onset in near continuous fluctuation with Allan as the lone constant, Allan wasted little time in establishing himself as one of rock and roll’s leading virtuosos and visionaries in that capacity. As Curb became increasingly involved with Sidewalk and Tower as producer of a series of acclaimed film soundtracks (including Doctor Goldfoot And The Girl Bombs, The Wild Angels, Thunder Alley and Wild In The Streets, whose most noteworthy track, Shape Of Things To Come by Max Frost And The Troopers inspired the title of the reviews column in Blitz Magazine), he called upon Allan and the Arrows to provide some of the more memorable moments.

By the early 1970s, Curb was focusing upon the Mike Curb Congregation, whose irresistible 1971 Burning Bridges single (MGM K-14151) was featured in the Clint Eastwood film, Kelly’s Heroes. Curb also briefly served as president of the vaunted Verve label before shifting his attention towards political office.

Meanwhile, Allan persevered in a variety of disciplines. He backed Jim Pewter on a pair of singles for MGM in 1972, and recorded prolifically for the label (both with the Arrows and in a solo capacity) throughout mid-decade. Rightfully embraced as a major influence by the burgeoning punk/new wave revolution and the related second generation garage rock movement that came to fruition in the mid-to-late 1970s, Allan was duly recruited by industry pioneer Chris Ashford, whose What Records? (the recording home of such genre focal points as the Germs, the Dils, the Controllers and the Eyes) released the Arrows’ Stoked On Surf (What? 12-601) in 1982. A first rate vocal country LP, An Arrow Escape followed the next year; an album that was the subject of a rave review in Blitz Magazine upon its original release, and was recently reissued online in commemoration of its thirtieth anniversary.

That most welcome new reissue is by far not the first example of Allan’s ongoing commitments to both vinyl and the physical format in general. In 1997, Cynics co-founder Gregg Kostelich signed the Arrows to his prolific Get Hip label, resulting in The Born Losers Theme / The Glory Stompers single (Get Hip GH-209). The following year, the late Greg Shaw (who had briefly served as Blitz Magazine’s Art Director in the 1980s) signed the Arrows to his Alive/Total Energy label, where the band further realized their own interpretation of Max Frost and the Troopers’ aforementioned Shape Of Things To Come, coupled with the intense Vanishing Breed (Alive/Total Energy 3020). Happily, throughout that transitional period, Bob Irwin’s beloved Sundazed label successfully leased (from Mike Curb) and reissued a wealth of the Arrows’ Tower and Sidewalk material in the CD format, along with Restless In L.A., a 2003 CD of all new Arrows recordings.

Throughout much of the twenty-first century to date, Allan has maintained an active live performance schedule. In the process, he has amassed continued accolades for his formidable guitar artistry, which in part prompted his perceptive self assessment of “melodic grunge”. For the past several years, Allan has also been a most welcome member of Blitz Magazine’s “inner circle”, a handpicked group of musical legends and industry veterans that serve in an informal advisory capacity and who also occasionally network with one another.

Allan also continues to direct much of his attention towards his own Arrow Dynamic Records. The label issued the first volume of its Retrophonic CD compilations in 2009; an ongoing series of odds and ends from his solo and Arrows archives. The newer material in that first installment featured contributions from such duly inspired artists as the Long Beach-based Nushu cofounder and Vandalay recording artist, Lisa Mychols and Cockeyed Ghost alumnus, composer and keyboardsman, Adam Marsland.

“Adam appears on five tracks on the 2009 Retrophonic CD and one on Retrophonic 4”, said Allan.

Released in 2013, Retrophonic 4 (Arrow Dynamic AD004) finds Allan’s enthusiasm for Arrows-themed instrumentals undiminished; containing as it does a number of them that handsomely showcase his guitar work. The cover material therein is also reflective of his commitment to musical diversity, from a mid-tempo take on the David Whitfield and Mantovani / Jay And The Americans high drama masterpiece, Cara Mia to Vaughn Monroe’s (Ghost) Riders In The Sky, Buddy Holly’s Think It Over and the Little Richard/Bill Haley And The Comets/Elvis Presley monster classic, Rip It Up.

However, on the nineteenth of February, Allan found himself briefly sidelined as the result of cataract surgery. Thankfully the recovery process is progressing quite well.

“I now have to do the right eye in April”, said Allan.

“The worst part was the anticipation, plus getting more wrinkles, hair turning whiter, etcetera! As soon as this heals, I can't wait to go to Disneyland and check out Star Tours. Bet I'll see things I've been missing! And to start working on the (Arrows’) fiftieth anniversary album.

During his recovery, Allan took the time to discuss with Blitz Editor/Publisher Michael McDowell the various Retrophonic projects, as well as various highlights from his career and his insights on the growing download versus physical release controversy.

BLITZ: The Retrophonic series was intended to showcase the best of your heretofore unreleased material. But with the release of this fourth installment, it has become apparent that your archives were indeed vast. Was there any reason why much of this material did not see release at the time of its recording?

ALLAN: Actually, there aren’t that many previously unreleased tracks in the series. The first five tracks on Volume One were all new. Unfortunately, I don’t own anything from the ’60s. You know who does! He at least had the sense to allow Sundazed to release quite a few tracks on five CDs between 2004 and 2006.

BLITZ: Stick It Again is a rather animated, uptempo 4/4 rocker, which at various points suggests aesthetic solidarity with Joe Cocker's High Time We Went. You were one of the few artists to be embraced by the demographic that included the work of artists such as Cocker. Might your extensive involvement in the various film soundtracks have factored into that anomaly?

ALLAN: I wasn’t going for anything in particular, except as a follow up to my 2008 tune Stick It from the Moving Right Along CD. I occasionally do a new biker tune as a takeoff on the tunes in ’60s films. But I rarely copy anyone else’s work or their ideas. At least I don’t think I do!

BLITZ: Yet Don't Blame Duane is presumably a playful reference to fellow guitar virtuoso, Duane Eddy. It seems as though this particular piece was inspired more by his work for RCA Victor than his earlier sides for Jamie Records. True?

ALLAN: I was only going for a takeoff / tribute to Duane, but with my sound. In speaking of some of my low notes, a reviewer many years ago said it sounded like Duane with dirty fingernails.

I was disappointed in not hearing back from Duane after I sent him a copy twice. I had also sent my version of Rebel Rouser from Retrophonic 2009, and received no reply. I always answer all letters, emails, etcetera, and I basically told Dan Forte that I’m not a Duane fan anymore. Dan was so disgusted with me that he has given me the silent treatment ever since.

BLITZ: Los Cabos features guest vocals from Lisa Mychols, who has also recently been in the spotlight as the result of the physical versus digital controversy. You seemed to work well together in the studio. It also sounds as though this track may have in part inspired the recent release by the all-star band, the Bamboo Trading Company. Do any highlights from that particular session come to mind?

ALLAN: That version was another attempt to getting that tune noticed. The best version of the four I’ve done — one on each of the four Retrophonic albums — was by Linda Sarian, who should have been a country star! I had not heard of the band you mentioned. My contact at K-Tel said he likes my instrumental version the best, on Retrophonic 4. Huh?!

BLITZ: Rather than just serving as an answer song of sorts to your 1965 reinterpretation of the Shadows / Jorgen Ingmann classic, Apache, the track Apache Junction seems to equally reflect the inspiration of the Kinks. Your thoughts?

ALLAN: Maybe I unknowingly had All Day And All Of The Night in mind. But I never really meant to copy it. If they heard it, hopefully they took it as a tribute!

BLITZ: Retrophonic 4 includes both a tribute track to Buddy Holly and a cover of his Think It Over. Some have suggested that his Down The Line would have been a perfect cover for the Arrows. Yet you opted for one of his mid-tempo pieces. Why so?

ALLAN: I was picked as one of the recipients for a copy of his ’47 guitar by The Buddy Holly Guitar Foundation. I had picked It’s So Easy for the name of the guitar. That one was taken, so I picked Think It Over because I had recorded a pre-Arrows version that was lost by the way, and always loved the song. It was fun doing the harmonica solo. My first time ever doing that.

BLITZ: Shape Of Things To Come of course saw its biggest acclaim in the version by Max Frost And The Troopers on Tower Records, and in fact inspired the name of the new releases review column in Blitz Magazine. It is of course widely regarded today as one of first generation garage rock's definitive classics. Given the slight propensity towards period affinity extant in the lyrics, how does that particular track resonate with you today?

ALLAN: The song didn’t mean much to me until I did remakes on my Moving Right Along CD in 2008 and my Retrophonic 4 CD in 2013.

An interesting story is that I still see my name and the Arrows mentioned as being Max Frost and the Troopers. I wish I could say that we were Max Frost and the Troopers, but unfortunately, it's just not true. I DID play on the Wild In The Streets soundtrack along with studio musicians known as the Hollywood Wrecking Crew; Hal Blaine, Carol Kaye and Larry Knechtel. But none of us played on Shape Of Things To Come. A band was hired to do that one and it was kept a secret as to who the members were. Actually Mom's Boys, featuring Paul Wibier (who also recorded for Sidewalk Records as the 13th Power - Ed.).

The mix-up started when my instrumental version was released as the last Arrows single on the Tower label. All I did was play lead on that pre-recorded track, so everyone assumed that we and Max Frost were one and the same. On a sour note, that was my last single in the ’60s from the worst album of my career, the Arrows perform music from Wild In The Streets. I'm on some of the Max Frost tracks, including those that appeared on The Glory Stompers soundtrack.

BLITZ: Retrophonic 4 includes a straight ahead, rocking version of the David Whitfield / Jay And The Americans classic, Cara Mia. That is an interesting choice of covers for such an interpretation. What was the inspiration behind it?

ALLAN: I was in an oldies band in the late ’80s into the ’90s, and we recorded a vocal version of the song. (We had a) great lead singer named Gabriel Hernandez, but broke up before getting it released. I realized that I had the basic track and decided to try an instrumental version. It’s tough being your own major critic! But I am thrilled with the result.

BLITZ: Your own professed list of inspirations is quite diverse, from Andy Williams to Buddy Holly. Some of that has been reflected in your own repertoire throughout the decades. Yet you often return to the basic, guitar-driven first generation garage rock template, of which you were one of the pioneers. How comfortable are you with the balance between familiar territory and experimentation?

ALLAN: I have a great time with that. As an example, I feel my two Christmas albums, Fuzz For The Holidays One and Two work quite well.

My main inspirations are Elvis Presley and Henry Mancini. I got into music because of Elvis and then into the melodies of Mancini, which drove me to work on my songwriting. I have stayed with that objective, but still go for my grungy sound. Hence I call my music melodic grunge.

You initially stated that Retrophonic Four will be your last physical release. In turn, Nancy Sinatra recently released a new album that is available only in the download format. There has since been a rather fervent reaction to developments such as those within the community of musicologists and record collectors, who overwhelmingly champion the physical format; be it the CD, the vinyl record or the cassette tape. As one with a half century's worth of vinyl and CD releases to your credit, what is your own reaction to the rise of the digital download? In light of these developments, might there be continued availability of your own material in the physical format?

ALLAN: The term “download only” is not one that I relish. I recently reworked and released the An Arrow Escape album for its thirtieth anniversary. It’s mainly a country album. In 1983, I had decided to take a break from my instrumental career and focus on my love of older country music. The takeoff on “a narrow escape” was my wife’s idea. I collaborated with several friends; most notably Rick Korenthal, my co-producer on the album.

I went back to the master tapes. I transferred them into Pro Tools and spent months repairing, remixing and remastering it. It’s only for downloads. It seems that only about a dozen “fans” have downloaded it. Since the only (label) releasing my material is my own, the money and PR is not there. But I would like to do the next one on vinyl and CD.

Also, Jerry Clayworth is starting a label. He booked me on some shows in Texas a few years ago. He picked two of the tunes, Brews' Theme and Just One Man as one of his first vinyl singles. 

BLITZ: The recent passing of former Standells drummer/vocalist and your former Tower Records labelmate, Dick Dodd from cancer is a sobering reminder of the urgency of stating your musical case while you are still able to do so. How has his passing affected your commitment to your own mission statement?

ALLAN: I was quite saddened by his passing. It did make me look at my future. I do have one album on paper that I want to do, but I really need a label for it. It should be with Curb’s company. But I mentioned it in a Christmas card to him and I received no reply.

By the way, that next album will be titled something like, Davie Allan And The Arrows - 50th Anniversary. I plan it for the fall of this year. That marks fifty years since Apache ’65 was released. Wow! Where did the years go?!


STAND UP: Following his victory over cancer, veteran Gospel rocker Carman Licciardello (pictured above after his landmark 30 July set at Monroe Street Church Of God in Monroe, Michigan) took to the road in support of his recently released CD, No Plan B. Editor/Publisher Michael McDowell takes a look at Licciardello's miraculous comeback below (Photo by Michael McDowell - C&P 2014 Blitz Magazine. All rights reserved).


What a difference a miracle makes.

Earlier this year, veteran Gospel rocker Carman Dominic Licciardello was involved in a life threatening battle with cancer. And for a time, it appeared as though the disease was winning.

"I wish I had better news, but for the first time though this whole journey. I'm worried, really worried", Licciardello in a statement that appeared on Blitz Magazine’s web site on the 26th of January.

"I don't mean to be fatalistic, but if for some reason I don't make it out of here, I want you all to know what great friends you've been to me and how much I've loved every minute of being on the stage ministering.

Yet a mere seven months later, in a manner not unlike that outlined in his classic 1991 track, Satan, Bite The Dust!, Licciardello is not only cancer-free, but he has taken to the road for a nationwide tour in support of his just completed album, No Plan B.

The 30 July stop of his No Plan B tour brought Licciardello to the North Monroe Street Church Of God in Monroe, Michigan. The capacity crowd there was blessed with a ninety-minute sermon and musical set that can truly be described as nothing short of miraculous.

Long a pillar of musical integrity in a genre that has somewhat disconcertingly relied more often than not on mainstream flavor of the month music for its inspiration, Licciardello remains the Gospel rocker of choice amongst musicologists, academics and record collectors alike for his original, no-nonsense and hard hitting original material, which has drawn from such diverse sources as Chuck Berry (the early album track, Bethlehem), Henry Mancini (Mission 3:16), Gary U.S. Bonds (Sunday School Rock) and Dick Dale and the Del-Tones (Surf Mission).

Welcomed by a standing ovation and a glowing introduction from Senior Pastor Rick Massingill, Licciardello opened his set with several of his best loved originals, including Radically Saved, I Feel Jesus, the aforementioned Sunday School Rock, the often copied This Is My Bible and the high drama narrative, The Witch’s Invitation. With each track enhanced by pertinent visual aides on the screen to his rear, Licciardello presented an ambitious and spirited balance between archival material and selections from No Plan B (including The Flag and the title track).

But perhaps the highlight of his set came slightly past the midpoint, with a sermon based on The Great Commission of Mark 16. Also citing John 5 and drawing from the 1953 Alan Ladd / Jack Palance motion picture, Shane for illustration, Licciardello delivered a riveting message in somewhat unnerving terms as he spoke with great candor not only of his health issues, but of the residual fallout that came from being a pillar of aesthetic integrity within a genre that has sadly often fallen short in that respect. Without giving away the core of his message to those who may not yet have heard it, suffice to say that his reality check expressed therein should serve as a wake up call of sorts for both musical devotee and believers at large.

Upon resuming the musical portion of his set, Licciardello hit a home run with first rate renditions of the ballad I Surrender All (complete with altar call), the irresistibly bouncy Good To Me, the title track from his 2001 top ten motion picture, The Champion (in which Blitz Magazine’s Michael and Audrey McDowell had brief roles in the fight scene) and No Way, We Are Not Ashamed from his 1988 Radically Saved album. True to form, he ended the proceedings with his utterly stupendous signature track, Who’s In The House?, the song that concurrently rescued the much maligned rap, house and hip hop genres from themselves and served as an anthem of sorts for the faithful in the process.

While the realities of recovery meant keeping his post-show meet and greet to a minimum, Licciardello nonetheless and in no uncertain terms once again put both the mainstream and satan on notice that, through the grace of God, he is back with a vengeance. The No Plan B tour runs through mid-September and includes stops in Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arkansas, Arizona and Oklahoma.



FULL ON: Since the release of  his 1999 solo debut with Risin' Outlaw, Hank Williams III (also known as Hank3) has firmly established himself as one of the most astute, unique, creative and ambitious visionaries in all of music. Editor/Publisher Michael McDowell spoke with Hank3 on the eve of his fourteen-date tour in support of his forthcoming Brothers Of The 4x4 and A Fiendish Threat albums. Story follows below.


By Michael McDowell

“Both the popular country music and the popular rock music of today leave much to be desired. It will get to the point that people will just get tired of its sameness and start demanding something a little bit better. I hope that’s where I come in. I’m very confident in my own abilities now. I hope everyone else will pick up on it.

So said country rock pioneer Hank Williams Junior in an interview with Editor/Publisher Michael McDowell in Blitz Magazine #32, which was published in September 1979. Although it would be nearly a decade before the so-called New Traditionalist movement would for one last time bring to fruition Williams’ vision for country music, the genre’s subsequent protracted aesthetic slump (combined with mainstream rock’s seeming inability to rectify its own situation) makes Williams’ observations all the more timely well into the twenty-first century.

In what is widely regarded as his signature track, the 1979 Family Tradition single (Elektra E-46046), Hank Williams Junior good naturedly celebrated what was generally perceived as the common thread between him and his legendary father, country music giant Hank Williams. But as is often the case, the difference between outside observers’ perceptions and reality can be substantial.

In the case of the Williams family, the common thread has actually been an extraordinary, God-given gift for artistic ability and creativity. Not so that each subsequent generation can dutifully follow in the footsteps of the earlier ones, but so that all concerned can assert their respective creative muse and produce unique and individual works of art that stand on their own merits.

To be certain, Hank Williams set the bar about as high as it can be set in that respect. In turn, Hank Williams Junior took into consideration his own inspirations, and for the past half century has established a most impressive legacy as one of the founding fathers of country rock with his various releases for MGM, Warner Brothers, Elektra and other labels.

Most recently, the current generation of the Williams family has grown exponentially in terms of breaking new ground. Beginning with the release of The Ones We Never Knew (Universal South 623392) in October 2004, Hank Williams Junior’s daughter, Holly Audrey Williams has since established herself as one of the premier singer/songwriters in all of music. Her third and most recent album, The Highway on her own Georgiana label is one of the most compelling new releases of 2013 to date.

All of which culminates in the work of a man who may well be the among the most qualified to not only rescue country music from the doldrums, but to inspire the world of music at large onto greater heights. Born Shelton Hank Williams in Nashville, Tennessee on 12 December 1972, Hank Williams III (also known as Hank3) has, since his 1999 debut as a solo artist with the release of Risin’ Outlaw for Curb Records, charted for himself a most unique and ambitious musical course.

As the son of Hank Williams Junior, Hank3 by definition was blessed with the creative capabilities that are indigenous to his bloodline. But as an avid musicologist, multi-instrumentalist and hardcore record collector, Hank3 also brings a wealth of experience and artistic acumen to the table. A firm believer in musical diversity, Hank3’s personal vinyl, cassette and CD archives include such inspirational visionaries as the late, great banjo virtuoso, David “Stringbean” Akeman and indie rock pioneers (and one-time Blitz Magazine cover story subjects), Black Flag.

In particular, Black Flag’s former front man, Henry Lawrence “Henry Rollins” Garfield has had a significant impact on Hank3, particularly in terms of his stringent work ethic. Likewise a relentless perfectionist, Hank3 has always made a concerted effort to persevere without compromise. While such noble aspirations may have temporarily cost him some momentum in terms of widespread notoriety, he nonetheless has amassed a most impressive recorded legacy along the way, with such triumphs as his 2002 Lovesick, Broke & Driftin’ album for Curb Records and the rather candid 2010 release, Rebel Within for Sidewalk Records to his credit.

In mid-2013, Hank3 once again took an ambitious step; this time in the form of two new albums that celebrate both of his primary musical interests. Recorded over a period of four months in his home studios (with Hank3 handling both drums and guitar, as well as production, mixing and mastering duties), the country-themed double album, Brothers Of The 4x4 also features Zach Shedd on stand up bass, David McElfresh and Billy Contreras on fiddle, Andy Gibson on steel guitar, Johnny Hiland on lead guitar, and Daniel Mason on banjo, with a special guest appearance by one-time National Old-Time Banjo champion, Leroy Troy.

In turn, the hardcore-flavored A Fiendish Threat affords Hank3 the opportunity to showcase his punk rock inclinations, which he does therein with resounding success. Brothers Of The 4x4 and A Fiendish Threat are scheduled for 01 October 2013 release on his own Hank3 label in both the CD and vinyl configurations. Hank3 is celebrating these new releases with a fourteen-date tour that will conclude on 08 September, including stops in Indianapolis, Flint, Pittsburgh, Washington D.C., Charlotte and Atlanta.

In the following conversation (which transpired on 07 August 2013), Hank3 shares not only his unique perspective as a member of country music’s royal family, but also the many varied inspirations behind his ambitious and engaging original material. To be certain, his is an artistic vision that at long last should appease the musical appetites of those whom are (in his father’s words), “demanding something a little bit better”.  

BLITZ: It’s good to see that the so-called Family Tradition has continued in your case. Not necessarily in terms of one generation following in the direction of another, but in that each has maintained a high level of creativity in their own right.

It’s always a challenge, trying to stand on your own two feet. Even if you’re Dale Earnhardt Junior or Frank Zappa’s son. Over the years, I’ve been lucky enough to find my own niche and my own voice. That can be a hard task, going up against Hank Senior and Hank Junior!

But my fans have stuck with me throughout the years. There have been a lot of great shows and a lot of different sounds that have come out of me over that period!

BLITZ: You came into an appreciation of music at a relatively early age. As early as the late 1970s, you were already expressing an interest in music and starting to accumulate a record collection. You had an advantage in that respect because of whom your father was, and he no doubt brought a lot of music to your attention.

But by that same token, you came into it right at the height of the burgeoning new wave/punk movement. It seems as though all of that factored into creating a richly diverse musical background for you. Did that concurrently spark your interest as a collector and a musicologist at that time, as well?

HANK3: It’s a little bit of both. My mom and my aunt always had interesting music around. Since I had a drum set and all of these different sounds, I kept trying to play along with Elvis Presley or Queen. Or when I got a little older, Gary Numan and the Sex Pistols. That’s basically how I learned how to play a lot of my instruments. It was kind of a natural progression for me on the guitar and on the drums.

For Hank Junior, Southern Rock was his thing. For Hank Senior, it was a little bit of country, blues and rock and roll. For me, it was just natural to learn other styles of music.

BLITZ: In a sense, you also carried on that perspective. Your grandfather reportedly had an interest in rhythm and blues, which was just coming into its own at that time. In turn, when Blitz Magazine interviewed your father, he mentioned that one of his early inspirations was Chubby Checker.

By that same token, from the onset, you seem to have embraced the rock of major label bands like Deep Purple, as well as the relatively underground movement espoused by Black Flag, the Sex Pistols and the Ramones with equal passion. Interestingly enough, at that time, those two camps were somewhat at odds, as though one was out to overtake or replace the other. Since that time, it seems that both camps have reconciled, though. Yet it seems that you always embraced both camps without that mindset.

HANK3: I’ve seen what you’re talking about. Sometimes jealousy or all of that stuff can come against bands. For me, that was a bit of a tricky one. When I was growing up, I liked Motley Crue. But I also liked Black Flag! Like you were saying, the followers of both were running down the street, hating each other as much as possible.

But with me, I just tried to keep an open mind. Throughout the country part of my show, I try to respect things, as I always try to give people their money’s worth. In the first part of the show, I always say, “I appreciate your coming out. I’m going to be doing some of these other sounds, which some of you might not like.” I think that kind of work ethic has helped me out in the long run, whereas it might have caused some issues with other bands.

BLITZ: There have been cases where artists have tried to move off into different directions or different genres. Or artists have taken careers that were established in one field and tried to establish themselves in another. Yet in those cases, there almost always seems to be some sort of resistance there.

You have always maintained that perspective. Yet for some reason, it seemed to have taken a long time before you committed your musical vision to record. You were involved in the Three Hanks project in 1996, in which you sang with your father and your grandfather’s recordings. But you didn’t make your debut as a solo artist until 1999, with the release of your Risin’ Outlaw album. Why the delay in putting your ideas into fruition?

HANK3: First of all, I wasn’t that crazy about that record, Three Hanks. I thought it was going to look bad, as if, “We’re paving the way for Hank3”. I naturally said, “Why don’t you wait ten years and then put that kind of record out?”

It was an honor to sing with Hank Senior and Hank Junior. But I definitely didn’t like the way that was done, being my very first country record.

The reason for the delay of the release of Risin’ Outlaw was up to Curb Records. They were getting used to me, and I was getting used to them. As time has gone on, I have probably been on my sixth year now without a manager. In some ways, it has worked to my benefit, just having the distribution company out there and putting out what I do, then going out on the road and trying to do it that way. 

BLITZ: You did go with Curb Records for the release of the Risin’ Outlaw album. You may or may not be aware of it, but in the 1960s, Mike Curb was involved with the Sidewalk and Tower labels, which were subsidiaries of Capitol Records. In the mid to late 1960s, they released a lot of film soundtracks and worked with independent first generation garage bands like the Standells, the Chocolate Watch Band and the Arrows.

Since that time, some of the artists who were involved with him have shared your sentiments about their experiences. Presumably you never sought out any of them for advice in that respect, then.

HANK3: Not really. It’s definitely a tough business. If you’re an artist or a musician that knows what your sound is and you know what you want on your records, it can always be a challenge.

For an artist like me, they just didn’t understand or get what I was doing. It doesn’t matter if you’re as big as someone on a huge scale level like Tim McGraw, or someone on a smaller level like myself. It seems like some of those same problems come up in the conversations!

BLITZ: Despite the circumstances behind it, if you look at the Risin’ Outlaw album from the perspective of an impartial, third party observer, there are definitely some tracks of merit in there. For example, it is very easy to be taken with your cover of Bobby Edwards’ You’re The Reason, which of course was also covered in 1965 by Gerry and the Pacemakers. You did a great, great job on that track. What inspired you to cover it?

HANK3: Honestly, I would go through all of the tapes and listen to the songs. And if I was going to be doing someone else’s songs, I at least got to pick out the songs. At the time that album was cut, the original version stood out a lot to me.

BLITZ: You once indicated that on the Risin’ Outlaw album, there are only a couple of tracks that still met with your standards. Presumably one of them was If The Shoe Fits, which states your case as an emerging artist quite well. In other words, “This is where I stand. You might not like it, but I am standing behind who I am”. Is that a fair assessment?

HANK3: Definitely! I would be down at Polygram or something, and see all of these people writing songs in offices. And I thought, “I’m not sure what the difference between y’all’s song is and one of my songs!” Songs like If The Shoe Fits, Mississippi Mud or Country Heroes, all of those in my eyes are decent songs.

Those are for my fans, and that was definitely one of the first to help get me on my way. It was before the heavy rhythm, high energy gallop was coming into play. But it was getting there!

BLITZ: You seem to have hit your stride in that respect with your next album, Lovesick, Broke & Driftin’.

HANK3: Yes! Working with (co-producer) Joe Funderburk on that record, and having (steel guitarist) Kayton Roberts there, working with musicians like that is always an awesome experience! It was a good learning curve. That was one of the last records that I got to do on tape to tape on the machines, pre-digital.

BLITZ: There is one song in particular on the Lovesick, Broke & Driftin’ album in which you and Blitz Magazine are definitely on the same page in that respect, the song Trashville. It seems to be an answer song of sorts within the country genre to Bob Seger’s Back In ’72, in which he talks about how the self indulgence in much of the music of the early 1970s crushed the music which had inspiration and took away the heart and the creative element. There were people who were trying to express themselves personally as individuals, but there was an undue obsession at the time with image and socio-political causes that took away from the heart of the music.

To take it a step further, Blitz Magazine has long maintained that country music’s last collective gasp of consequence was the so-called New Traditionalist movement of the late 1980s and early 1990s, where artists like Dwight Yoakam, Clint Black, Carlene Carter, the Desert Rose Band and Highway 101 came in; plus a lot of the long time greats were concurrently able to return to the spotlight, like Waylon Jennings, George Jones, Johnny Cash, Buck Owens and your father. Would you say that was the cut off point when Nashville became Trashville? Or what was the cut off point for you?

HANK3: It goes back to that independent streak that I’ve had. I’ve always known myself and I’ve always known my songs. I’ve never really understood why someone needed to tell me how to write a song. If you think like that and you play like that, it’s not going to get you very far in Nashville!

I love living in Tennessee, and I love being born and raised in Nashville. There are just two streets that I didn’t get along with that well, as far as business goes. Because if you are a super creative person like you are saying, it’s a tough gig. For someone like me, they just didn’t understand what I do. It’s a challenge when you’re involved in it. The managers, the lawyers, the producers and all of that stuff.

Even back when I first started in Branson, they said, “You know what you need to do, and you know how to do it”. And that’s what I have always basically done. I had to do some time with Curb for a little while, just to get out there. But the deal is still writing the majority of my songs and trying to get out there on the road, doing the best I can and trying to hang in there with it.

It depends on what you’re in it for. I was in it for my sound, my songs. That’s just natural when you’re coming with a bloodline that’s as creative as mine! Some people get into it just to record that song that’s going to become a hit and definitely be played on that radio station. I have been just a little more independent in my ways of thinking.

BLITZ: It’s interesting that you have stuck with Nashville geographically. Consider the following scenario: In the early 1990s, an individual of our acquaintance was a successful radio producer in Southern California. But when the Northridge earthquake struck in January 1994, he panicked and relocated to Nashville, leaving behind his successful $100,000 a year career in Los Angeles.

His idea behind relocating to Nashville was to find success in that field in country music. But about a year after he relocated there, we spoke with the pastor of his church. The pastor told us, “Your friend came out here to die, and to die big time”. Instead of furthering his career in that respect, the former radio producer was now cleaning the house, taking out the trash and mowing the lawn for a successful Nashville producer and living close to the bone. Does such a scenario sound familiar from what you have observed? And if so, what did those involved do about it?

HANK3: For me, it’s not quite that bad. If you don’t set yourself up for that huge fall, then you’re never going to fall. Unfortunately, I have never been used to making that much money! I’ve just been out there trying to figure out how to break even. I had to file bankruptcy about ten years ago, just to keep it out on the road. But being born and raised here, I have gotten a lot of the respect of the old timers. That’s a tough one!

I’ve kept it inside of the bars. There’s something of beauty of not going outside of the bars. It’s been the perfect thing of not too big, not too small. I think that’s helped me a lot over the years.

BLITZ: To that effect, you have maintained your integrity, which means at least being able to sleep at night. We can return to the Lovesick, Broke & Driftin’ album as an example. The opening song, 7 Months, 39 Days is a masterpiece of the traditional country template. You took that sound and put your own personal, distinctive stamp on it. It sounds as though you are in solidarity with that genre of music yourself, yet you want to keep it within your own framework.

HANK3: I’m always open to working with other people. But when it comes to my records, I’m writing the songs! I am at least in a position now that’s great, when another musician calls me up and says, “Hey, man. You wanna sing on this record?” I say, “Sure!” I get to do it, and I have no problems.

I don’t have to miss out on a lot of great opportunities nowadays. I got to record with David Allan Coe. I’ve had Junior Brown here at the house. He likes the way I record and the vibe of the house. There are a lot of things I’m involved with. I’m not totally opposed to working with other people. I did a project for Alamo Jones, just for the sake of doing it. We did like a five song EP. I’m always trying to be creative. I’m just not trying to be creative with other people as much, but the door is still open.

BLITZ: You seem to have made peace with your so-called Family Tradition a lot earlier on than perhaps your father did. Early on in his own situation, the obvious reference point for his concerns in that respect was his 1966 Standing In The Shadows single for MGM. He took a stand for himself, and he did so quite well.

On the other hand, you have also taken quite an impressive stand for yourself. You have done what you do very well for roughly the past fifteen years. Yet you don’t hesitate to give credit where credit is due, and that’s great.

If nothing else, you have demonstrated that the Family Tradition means that the spark of creativity is found in each successive generation, but in an individual way. For example, a couple of years ago, you made a guest appearance on Marty Stuart’s television program, in which you sang an absolutely spot on, bone chilling version of your grandfather’s My Sweet Love Ain’t Around. Then you turned around and did it your own way, underscoring that the common theme of the bloodline is that each generation is creative, but in their own right. Is that assessment on target?

HANK3: Definitely! Once in a while, I will do a tribute to Hank Senior, just because there will never be another one. No one will ever come that close to doing it as good. You won’t see me doing a whole Hank Williams show. You will only see me doing a few. Maybe a couple of songs every now and then, but it’s usually for friends, or just for paying respect.

When I think of Hank Junior and Hank Senior and all of the things that they’ve done, I am strictly mesmerized as a musician, and as a songwriter, about all of the different phases that they have been through in life. So that is something with me. When I’m listening to music, I am always thinking about the process that they had to go through to write the songs. How they might have had to get up at 5:30 in the morning and go down to the radio station. How did they have a voice that early in the morning? I’m amazed by the talent and how they got it done.

BLITZ: Do you think it is possibly a matter of perception? For example, you are presumably familiar with the 2012 reissue CD on the Time Life label, Lost Concerts, which features two complete and previously unreleased 1952 concerts by Hank Senior. The traditional accounts of his life often suggest that things were not going well for him in 1952, with one challenge after another. Yet if you listen to the Lost Concerts CD, what is more than evident on there is an artist who is very much on top of his game. He was doing stand up comedy, his delivery was brilliant, he radiated joy and he was in absolute command of the proceedings. If indeed there were issues extant in his circumstances, you couldn’t make a convincing case of it with that record!

By that same token, certain things were expected of you. Curb Records and the Nashville elite wanted this and that out of you. But you defied their expectations and did things quite well. Is that then a case of the bloodline maintaining its independence and its creative spark?

HANK3: I think it just kind of shows itself naturally. If you look at my whole music career, I’m not trying to be that negative punk. I’m just trying to do what feels natural to me. Some have said that I have held myself back for a lot of years. But it just goes back to that not being too big and not being too small. It’s just being in my niche! Being a drummer and a rhythm guitar player, throughout most of my young life has brought me into a situation like, when Johnny Hiland takes a solo on my record, he says, “Man, your rhythms just really stick out to me. I play on a lot of records around town, and no one has these kind of rhythms!”

So when I hear a compliment like that from someone who is looking at me in the now and not even at the past hardly at all, it’s good to hear that kind of a comment from such a high end musician. Theory and songwriting has always been tough for me with my learning disabilities over the years. It’s always a challenge to pump that stuff out.

BLITZ: It’s interesting that you alluded to exploring the dark themes. That interim period after the release of Rebel Proud, amidst those later Curb reissues, like Hillbilly Joker, Ghost To A Ghost/Gutter Town, 3 Bar Ranch Cattle Callin’ and Attention Deficit Domination, those albums seem to explore a lot of dark themes. Is it more of a situation of sharing first hand experiences, or perhaps doubling as a red flag of sorts to your audience, saying “Don’t go too far over the edge”? How do you view it?

HANK3: I would look at it more like when Johnny Cash would sing a sad lonesome song, or talking about taking his guns to town and killing somebody. You can only hear so much squeaky clean happy stuff on the radio, or whatnot. There has to be room for a lot of other stuff. I’ve just fallen into that “other stuff” category! I’m able to write about that other stuff a little more easily.

I definitely don’t try to push too much religion or too much politics. I do put it out there that yes, there is the light, and yes, there is the dark. And my granddad sang about the light, and he sang about the dark. I’m kind of doing it that same way. The genres are just a little more extreme nowadays. There is a whole genre called doom metal, which had that spooky, eerie, kind of ghostly feel to it.

Like on the new record, when I have songs like Deep Scars or Loners 4 Life, then I’ll turn around and put a good time feeling song in there, like Dreadful Drive, with the clawhammer banjo. Or Possum In A Tree, getting a little bit old school with Leroy Troy, just to brighten it up a little bit.

I’m always trying to keep some balance in mind. 3 Bar Ranch Cattle Callin’ is kind of a lighthearted, fun record. It’s not getting real serious. I tell all the kids that! I’m always trying to have that come across.

BLITZ: You have two of the best new albums of 2013 to date with Brothers Of The 4x4 and A Fiendish Threat. On the track Possum In A Tree in your new Brothers Of The 4x4 album, there is some inventive steel guitar work. The delivery is, like you said, pure. Is there an attempt with that track to capture some of the novelty spirit of the genre, as perhaps your grandfather did with Kaw-Liga?

HANK3: I wrote that song for Leroy Troy. Leroy Troy is a purist, clawhammer banjo king. Yes, I wanted that song to sound more old school. I wrote it with him in mind.

That was my first attempt at trying to play steel guitar. I took my recorder over there. Me and him tracked it live in his shed out back. There’s a lot of reasons why that song is going to stand out. It sounds a little more low-fi than a lot of the record would. There is a reason for that. As Leroy Troy would say, “And to top it off, it’s a true story, too!”

That was definitely a good, lighthearted, fun recording session. I can’t wait to play it for Leroy. He gets to hear it when it’s officially done. I want to see his expression in person!

BLITZ: You mentioned the musicianship of the band. The title track on Brothers Of The 4x4 and Lookey Yonder Comin’ both feature strong instrumental workouts that celebrate the joy of the lyrics, but also showcase the strong musicianship of those who are playing on there with you.

You have always surrounded yourself with really strong musicians, who tend to soar when given the opportunity. Do you find that outside players gravitate to your work for that reason?

HANK3: I’m lucky enough to have a lot of the same players come back every time I make a record. Over both records, there is two and a half hours of music. Yet there is only about twenty minutes of editing. So almost all of these songs might have taken a hundred times to get that one take. But that’s how we did it. The players are definitely steppin’ up to the plate on those songs, like you were saying.

Johnny Hiland was the first guy to lay down some outside stuff on it. Then Daniel Mason on the banjo, Andy Gibson on the steel guitar, and Zach Shedd on the stand up bass. It’s always a challenge, doing the engineering and the recording process of it. Sometimes the players look at me, wanting me to tell them what to play. Then other guys just already know what they’re going to play and lay it down.

BLITZ: It works very well in that respect, too. It seems like with the Brothers Of The 4x4 album, you are shifting the focus a bit more towards instrumental dexterity, rather than lyrical content. Would that be a fair assessment?

HANK3: I’ve always loved the great musicians. It just goes back to writing vocals being a challenge for me. Yeah, I like turning the band up! If you listen to my mixes, you’re going to hear kick drum and snare pretty loud. I’m a fan of the band.

When I was growing up, I never could understand why a lot of the live band members weren’t playing on the records. That always baffled me. So I am lucky enough nowadays that the majority of my live band plays on the record. I get to see some friends that I’ve made over the years come in and do some of the super pickin’, just layin’ it down like it was nothing. Johnny Hiland and Billy Contreras.

BLITZ: You mentioned the clawhammer style of banjo picking. In the past, you seem to have professed an interest in the real pioneers of that work, such as David “Stringbean” Akeman. He was a forerunner of that style when he recorded for Starday. You even covered one of his songs. Would you say that Outdoor Plan from your new album is an attempt to carry on his mission statement? Or at least that of Elton Britt, Uncle Dave Macon or Hank Snow? There is a little bit of all of them in that song.

HANK3: What you are basically picking up on is the man who has been like my grandfather growing up, and that’s Eddie Pleasant. He writes probably two to three songs per day. That song is a co-write, and a lot of those influences are coming across on that song. That’s probably what you’re feeling. Even though he loved it when it was just me and my acoustic guitar. I put a little more of a current kind of bounce under it.

There is a lot more Stringbean that I probably need to get close to. I have some of his records that I want to get to in the future. It brings me peace. When I’m not feeling good, I can just pick up the banjo, go outside and sit down under the tree. There’s something about it that soothes my soul! I know I’ll be doing a little more recording of that one day.

BLITZ: You have stated in recent years that you get that same gratification from sitting down and listening to your record collection. Does that still resonate with you?

HANK3: Absolutely! I go through my highs and lows. If I’m not super busy with the crew, and the trailer is loaded, the gear is in place and the merch is counted, I have some times! Hasil Adkins is one of the guys that can make me hurt if I need to hurt. I can put on some of his songs and definitely get past some emotions. If I feel like working strong through the day, I’ll have Jimmy Martin blasting in the background and getting some stuff done. Music is still definitely tapping into my emotions very strongly, when I’m just listening to it.

BLITZ: Have you added to your collection lately?

HANK3: Right now, I’m kind of stuck. I’ve been into a lot of ’70s rock and roll, and getting into a lot of Roy Duke. I’ve been fascinated with Dock Boggs over the years. Something about Dock Boggs has just grown more and more on me. There is something about the banjo and the singers.

I save a lot of it for when I’m on the road. That’s when I do a lot of my vinyl shopping. I haven’t been on the road in almost a year. So I’m a little out of touch!

BLITZ: You at least maintained enough of that inspiration to be creative enough in the studio to produce an album like A Fiendish Threat. If you were looking to perhaps capture the spirit of Black Flag, the Sex Pistols or, to a lesser extent, the Ramones, you nailed it!

HANK3: Whatever music style it is, whether we are calling it punk rock or not, I think it has a unique sound for it all being played and sang at the same time on the acoustic guitar. The acoustic and the stand up bass has made it its own little whatever people call it.

My friends that I have known my whole life are saying, “What are you calling this?” I just know that it was a record that was a lot of fun for me to record. It made me feel like I was a younger man on some of those vocal takes. A lot of high energy! Imagine a skateboarder that had a really bad wreck, and he’s got to piece himself back together. I’m putting a lot of the “rebuild yourself” kind of hope into that record. There are some positive messages in that one.

BLITZ: That brings to mind another tangent of your Family Tradition situation. You are of course a father. You have a son and a daughter. If either of them approaches you and seeks your advice on music, how would you guide them? What would you suggest to them?

HANK3: With my son, while he’s still in college, I am backing him, no matter what! I always tell him to learn a trade. He’s kind of going through spurts of playing the guitar for a while. Then he will play the banjo for a little bit. Then he will be all about capturing sound with tape decks! Either way, I’m always telling him to try to learn a trade, and play your guitar as much as possible. It’s going to take you a little while to figure out what your calling is.

But I am glad to have the open relationship and to be supportive. It’s always interesting to see him go through the changes, trying to figure out what he wants to do. My main thing is, “You’re young. Enjoy being young while you can. You know I’m here to help you out whenever you need it.

BLITZ: During the times that you were both endeavoring to get started in your own respective careers, did you ever exchange feedback with your sister, Holly for ideas?

HANK3: Me and Holly have never talked all that much on a musical level, probably because we may both be a little bit afraid that we don’t want to offend each other! We just keep it as a family relationship. She knows that I respect her as a musician, and I think that she does the same. I think for right now that’s the best thing for us. We don’t want any of the business messing us up!

BLITZ: A couple of the more interesting tracks on A Fiendish Threat are Watchin’ U Suffer, Fight My Way and Full On. What is the background on those?

HANK3: Watchin’ You Suffer is in a deeper tuning. That’s one reason why it might sound a little different. It’s got a little bit of that melody kind of drive to it. That’s where a little bit of the sci-fi stuff might be coming in to it. If you’re thinking about some 1950s kind of alien movie, where they’re up in the sky watching you suffer, it’s that kind of thing.

Fight My Way is definitely inspired one hundred percent by 7 Seconds, to the point where I was calling them up and telling them, “This comes from y’all one hundred percent, and I need y’all’s permission before I can go through with this!” They gave me their blessings. That was a song that just spoke to me a lot when I was growing up.

Full On is just one of those creative, kind of going for it full on songs of energy, all at once.

BLITZ: When these two albums are released, you may confound expectations, but you should also meet them. Those who have known you and your music, and know that you have pursued multiple directions will be pleased to see how much your work has grown.

That of course leads to the issue of how these new releases will come to the attention of your audience. For example, of course for much of your father’s career, the goal was to get on a major label, make a record, get it on the radio, get it played, get the disc jockeys behind you, and then you will be a success.

But as you are no doubt aware, in the ensuing years, the game has changed radically in that the independent artist and label has largely taken over. Radio has lost a lot of its impact. Commercial music is no longer universally held up as the standard for all to attain. The major labels have pretty much begun to focus on reissues and catalog items, because they cannot do justice to artists as they once could, while a lot of the artists are doing that sort of thing for themselves now. Fan support, technology and social websites have further enabled the independent artist to do that. To what extent do you envision those developments furthering your own career?

HANK3: There is something that my dad had that I’ve never had. He had a great relationship with his managers. That is huge! I’ve never had that. I’ve had a couple that I had been close to for a little bit. But when you’re talking about Merle Kilgore and Hank Williams Junior, I’ve never had anything that powerful in my corner.

BLITZ: It was Merle Kilgore who set up the interviews that Blitz Magazine conducted with your father years ago. He couldn’t have been nicer. A world class gentleman.

HANK3: No doubt. But you need to understand that if you are talking about the music business, what Merle did for Hank Junior was pretty huge. It’s hard to say with an artist like me, but when I see some of my heroes in a tough situation when they get to an older age, it’s either going to work for me, or it’s not. It’s really hard to say.

I had taken advice from Henry Rollins a long time ago. He said, “You work hard. You tour hard. You know your sound. All you need is good distribution, and that’s it.” I’ve stuck by those words, and it’s helped me out a lot.

I’m not saying for certain, but one day I might have a manger again. Someone I feel comfortable with. But most of the time, I’ve found that there are some artists that management just doesn’t work for. I think I’m one of those, just because I’m creative in a lot of ways.

BLITZ: Henry Rollins has maintained a level of success over the decades by constantly reinventing himself. After he left Black Flag, he did spoken word recordings. Then he became an author and a newspaper columnist. Most recently, he has been dabbling in acting. He has been all over the map, but he has nonetheless had success in every one of those ventures. Like you said, he worked hard and asserted himself. Presumably that is also what you are trying to do right now.

HANK3: Absolutely! He is definitely one of my heroes. A lot of my heroes usually have a high work ethic. Sometimes I wish that I could hang in there as much as Henry does. He’s so smart, and he takes on everything. I am hoping to get more and more stronger as I go. People like him, who kind of understand my history a little bit, have helped me conquer a lot of my challenges.

After I’m fifty, I really don’t know what’s going to happen musically for me. It’s going to be hard for me to look past that. Having someone like Henry Rollins to look up to, shows me that there might be other things in life that will ring true for me some day.

BLITZ: So you aren’t thinking creative muse long term as much as you are a survival strategy.

HANK3: I’m more concerned about not being able to pull off the show that I want to pull off! Can I still put on the country and the heavy metal? Every tour is a challenge. I am definitely living more in the now than I am in the future, because if you look at my financial past and all of that, it’s always ups and downs. Every night when you play, sometimes there are a thousand people, some nights there are a hundred people. But they still get the same show! And I’m still there if I’m sick or if I’m well. I’m gonna be up on that stage, doing the best I can, and letting someone forget about their problems for a little while.

BLITZ: It’s interesting that you are concerned about being able to maintain and execute your musical vision once you pass a certain chronological point. In recent years, we have seen a lot of first generation garage rock and related bands such as the Yellow Payges, the Monkees, the Young Rascals, the Rolling Stones and the Beach Boys all take to the road again to considerable acclaim, in spite of such concerns. Would taking it from the standpoint of heightened self-confidence help in that respect?

HANK3: Absolutely! I’m always astounded by some of the older guys that can keep bringin’ it to the table. Two nights ago, I went and saw Adam Ant. The first time I saw him was in 1984. He still has the voice. He still sounds like the guy that I looked up to way back then. I am always amazed by the Iggy Pops and the Willie Nelsons. These guys are still out there singin’ and playin’ and takin’ it to the next level!

I am always fascinated with the voice. For me, the voice is something that is hard to hold on to. On the road, you lose it and it gets weak. It gets gravelly. And sometimes, when you get older, just listening to Hank Junior records, you can hear how much his voice dropped, aside from the mountain fall and all of that.

Or Robert Plant. He is another perfect example of how things change when you get older. It’s always a challenge, that’s for sure! It keeps you on your toes. Who knows what will be waiting around the corner?

BLITZ: Monkees drummer Micky Dolenz, who has a wide and commanding vocal range, keeps his voice up by doing vocal exercises. Many artists also work out in the gym to prepare themselves for the rigors of the road.

HANK3: I have also been psyching myself up mentally in getting ready for the tours. I do nothing but stretch and breathe steam. I’m not the kind of guy who can just walk out on stage and have my voice. After a week and a half into it, I have to work at it two to four hours every day just to get it there. I do warm ups, stretching and exercises to get it to where I want it. Singing three and a half hours a night is always a hard thing.

BLITZ: Is that part of the reason why your upcoming tour is relatively brief, so that you don’t over extend yourself? Some artists have toured up to two years consecutively at a time. But your upcoming tour is scheduled to be completed in roughly a month.

HANK3: I’m just trying to see what a few weeks is going to do to me right now. I’m doing a small run. The longest I can go is a month and a half. Doing three and a half hour shows and four different genres per night? Now if I was just a country act, I could maybe pull off five to six months straight. But doing all of the other hard singing is a lot more tricky for me, mentally and physically.

BLITZ: How much of the set list in your upcoming tour will feature material from the two new albums?

HANK3: The country show will just be here and there, because of the fans. I’ve got my songs that a lot of the people want to hear. Foundation songs.

In October, there will be a lot more. I call this next tour the Nothin’ In It tour! I'm just gearing myself up for a harder run and a lot more work. I’m saving the energy just to get really personally excited for the next two years out there.

BLITZ: With regards to your two new releases, what is your perspective on the current developments in the industry? As you are aware, there has been a lot of interest in bringing back vinyl. Conversely, there has been a push from other camps in the industry towards eliminating physical product and making everything available only as a download. In the middle of it all is the compact disc. All three camps seem to be at odds with one another, each saying that their respective formats have a place, and they don’t want to concede it. What is your take on format availability?

HANK3: I seriously hope that people always have a chance to hold the product in their hands. Both the CD and the vinyl album. I know that vinyl will probably outlast the CDs. But as long as there is something there for them to hold on to, read and flip through, well, you just can’t replace that! Digital downloads are great, but it’s just not the same.

Like you are saying, hopefully it will hang in there. It needs paper and ink!

Since we’re talking about vinyl, I don’t carry that much of it on the road. I always tell everyone that is the place to get the vinyl. If anyone does come out to see me live, I usually don’t have an opening band. I always tell people that we usually play early. If the showtime is eight o’clock, then we are usually on stage at eight o’clock, as we often play about three and a half hours.

We cover a lot of different genres. I always do the country part of the show first, and the rock part as the night goes on. We’ve had a lot of great shows at the Machine Shop in Flint, Michigan over the years. There is always a lot of energy in the room on those nights!


 KEENER 13 REUNION: Buoyed by the accolades afforded them over the decades (including ongoing coverage in Blitz Magazine), in the wake of the fiftieth anniversary of the station's debut on 31 October 1963, the legendary air staff of Dearborn, Michigan's enormously influential WKNR Keener 13 radio (pictured above on the back of a WKNR Music Guide from January 1965) are celebrating the occasion with a reunion in New York City over the weekend of 13 - 15 June 2014. Editor / Publisher Michael McDowell has the story below, with exclusive commentary by WKNR veteran Jerry Goodwin. (Click on above image to enlarge).


Terms such as “genius”, “visionaries” and “pioneers” are often used with such abandon in the world of music, that their impact is often negated through their application to individuals or entities whose legacies may at best only marginally warrant such distinction.

But in the case of the various personalities that comprised the air staff of the legendary, Dearborn, Michigan-based WKNR Keener 13 radio, such accolades are more than applicable. Indeed, it is very much within reason to assert that the so-called Keener Key Men Of Music both created and perfected the template within their respective genre.

That genre is of course rock and roll radio. In its all too brief run (from October 1963 until April 1972), WKNR set the standards so high in that respect, that it has never been equaled nor surpassed, neither before nor since.

While WKNR was far from being the only rock and roll radio station in existence at the time, its enduring reputation was one that earned by design, rather by chance. Rising from the ashes of Detroit Tigers flagship station WKMH, the format of WKNR Keener 13 was painstakingly developed around a concept known as “intelligent flexibility”. The brainchild of Keener Key Man Bob Green (whose 3:00PM - 7:00PM shift at the station was augmented at various points by additional responsibilities as Music Director and Program Director), intelligent flexibility meant enabling the various Keener Key Men Of Music with unprecedented creative autonomy within the basic format template. That template included a playlist which was centered around the weekly WKNR Music Guide. The Keener Guide was comprised of thirty-one singles and a Key Song Of The Week, as well as three albums, plus a Key LP Of The Week.

While WKNR’s air staff focused much of their musical content on that which was found on those weekly Keener Music Guides (which at the time was a major attribute, given the overabundance of groundbreaking new music being released), they were also free to defer to personal favorites of varying vintage and genre, including album cuts, B-sides and (in several cases), their own recordings. Rather than defaulting to the endless “music marathons” that characterized so many other rock and roll stations, the WKNR Key Men Of Music interspersed the music with personality driven original banter that was often as rewarding as the music itself.

In order to maintain such a high level of creativity, WKNR drew from the absolute pinnacle of veteran air talent to compile its inaugural air staff. Most also had at least some executive level experience, primarily as Program Directors. Each had also previously cemented their legacies elsewhere by developing that rare combination of strong yet charismatic personality. To be certain, given that their responsibilities included not only on air banter, but voice overs, production, promotion, scripting, editing, engineering and a reasonable degree of musical acumen, it is very much within reason to say that the WKNR Key Men Of Music were every bit the musicians and artists as were the remarkably gifted artists whose records they introduced. To that effect, WKNR was for much of its run the station that broke most of the now classic hits released at the time; airing them weeks and months prior to their exposure throughout the remainder of North America.

Aside from Bob Green, those earliest WKNR veterans also included such beloved and immensely respected giants as Bill Phillips, Gary Stevens, Robin Seymour (who was the lone holdover from WKMH), Jim Sanders, Paul Cannon, Frank “Swingin’” Sweeney and the late Mort Crowley. After a bit of fine tuning, they were joined in the early weeks of 1964 by 12:00 noon - 3:00PM Key Man, Jerry Goodwin.

Sadly, WKNR endured several heavy losses of air staff in the early weeks of 1965. In March, the immensely popular evening Key Man, Gary Stevens was lured away by the WMCA Good Guys in New York City, where he remained until that station’s demise in 1968. In turn, Robin Seymour was given what ultimately became an immeasurable blessing to the world of rock and roll by CKLW television in neighboring Windsor, Ontario, with an offer to host the daily, hour long television variety program, Swingin’ Time. To his eternal credit, Seymour rose to the occasion and produced what is arguably the finest such program in history. During its run, Swingin’ Time helped to launch the careers of such area greats as the Southbound Freeway, the Spike Drivers, Julie Monday, the Lazy Eggs, the Wanted, the Rationals, Darrell Banks, Kris Peterson, Lonette McKee, the Shy Guys, Tim Tam and the Turn-Ons, the Parliaments, Bob Seger and the Last Heard, Terry Knight and the Pack, Jamie Coe, Question Mark and the Mysterians, the Unrelated Segments and the Underdogs via frequent guest appearances.

However, the Stevens / Seymour transitions (coupled with the abrupt departure of Swingin’ Sweeney) ultimately paved the way for the recruitment of several additional immensely respected pioneers into their ranks. With much publicized fanfare that included the tale of cross country travel by skateboard to WKNR’s Michigan Avenue offices (supplemented by frequent airings of Norma Tracey’s Day Dell label single, The Skateboard Song), the former Rock Robbins made his WKNR debut that spring in the 7:00 - 10:00PM slot as Scott Regen. Beloved by many for his highly personable style (which earned him high praise in the form of tribute singles by the Shy Guys and Edwin Starr) and on air sidekicks, Melissa Mulch and Mister Gory (both of which were voiced by Regen), Regen was among the first to feature lengthy and in depth on air interviews with front line artists throughout his tenure with the station.

Regen was joined that year by the equally charismatic J. Michael Wilson (10:00PM - 1:00AM). Wilson’s Rodney The Wonder Rodent character eventually lent his vocal talents to cover versions of the Underdogs’ Love’s Gone Bad and the New Vaudeville Band’s Winchester Cathedral.

The transition was complete with the addition of the great Ted Clark onto the 9:00AM - 12:00 noon slot. Aside from bringing to the table the passion and persona of such early rock and roll radio greats as Alan Freed, Clark also got considerable mileage out of his own co-host, the venerable “Stella”, whose solitary and frequent observation, “You said it!” was taken from the cover of the Chords / Crewcuts classic, Sh-Boom by master satirist, Stan Freberg. Clark remained a hero to many an aspiring broadcaster for his unwavering geniality and grace in the process of fielding seemingly endless requests for advice from such aspirants via both telephone and postal mail.

From within the first two months of its inception until the early weeks of 1968, WKNR pretty much set the absolute standard of excellence in not just rock and roll radio, but in radio overall. However, the rise that year of the 50,000 watt CKLW in Windsor, Ontario (which, in tandem with KHJ / Los Angeles was bringing the controversial Drake template of “time, temp and calls” to North America as a perceived - yet ultimately inappropriate - AM response to the burgeoning AM/FM wars that pitted rock and roll radio against the haphazard and ultimately doomed “anything goes, as long as it remains with our narrow parameters” approach of FM) meant the beginning of the end for WKNR with its 5,000 watt signal that was largely inaudible in the area’s crucial east side during the night time hours.

To that effect, by mid-1968, Green, Goodwin, Regen, Wilson and Clark were gone. Regen ironically and valiantly attempted to maintain the status quo by bringing an only modestly subdued variation of his much loved WKNR persona to CKLW that summer. And although Green and Regen again both enjoyed fruitful, hopeful and productive late runs at WKNR in the early 1970s, by that time, the damage was done. In April 1972, an emotional Pat Saint John (an early disciple of the WKNR Keener Key Men Of Music, who made a valiant effort to sustain that level of excellence in the station’s final days) bid an on air farewell to WKNR with a final spin of the Byrds’ Pete Seeger-penned, Book of Ecclesiastes-inspired Turn, Turn, Turn, as the station gave way to new call letters (WNIC) and a new format. After numerous format and call changes throughout the years, the 1310 frequency in the greater Detroit area finally signed off the air on 31 December 2012.

But while the station itself (which also lives on in part through the excellent website) may no longer be broadcasting, its legacy and impact remain undiminished more than a half century after its debut. Buoyed in part by ongoing support from Blitz Magazine (which from the onset has cited WKNR as its primary inspiration), as well as the limited CD reissue of the station's four acclaimed Keenergold compilation albums (with original covers and extensive bonus tracks) by the Forever II label and the extensive media adoration expressed in the wake of the station’s fiftieth anniversary on 31 October 2013, several of the Keener Key Men Of Music have planned to reunite in New York City over the weekend of 13 - 15 June.

“Pat Saint John and Jim Kerr, who, as you know are both on the air in New York City, will be joining us”, said Jerry Goodwin, whose post-Keener career has included considerable acclaim for his work in theatre.

Also scheduled to appear at the reunion are Bob Green, Gary Stevens, Swingin’ Sweeney and Robin Seymour. Sadly, Bill Phillips was not able to attend.

“We’re trying to avoid party crashers”, said Goodwin.

“We’ve had inquiries from guys that worked there long after we left, and we are trying to keep it as intimate as we can.

To that effect, such an intimate gathering would surely also include two of the most vaunted contributors to the WKNR legacy, Scott Regen and J. Michael Wilson. Regen currently resides in Florida, where he authors a newspaper column. Meanwhile, Wilson, whose post-WKNR career included a hugely successful run at Toronto, Ontario’s CHUM-AM, spent some time in the state of Ohio, although reunion organizers were unable to contact him in time for the New York gathering.

“We got notice that Scotty Regen will be attending after all”, said Goodwin.

“Great news! Unfortunately, J. Michael Wilson can't be found.

Although there are no guest broadcast shifts on tap for the weekend, by definition, a gathering of such an immensely respected group of visionaries is bound to produce fruitful results in a variety of disciplines.

“No airwaves takeover”, said Goodwin.

“It basically will involve a reunion dinner across from Carnegie Hall on Saturday night”, said Goodwin. 

"Guys are coming in and going on different days. So Saturday night will actually be the only time we will spend together as a group.

To be certain, no matter what transpires throughout that weekend, such a gathering is most assuredly answered prayer and a cause for considerable celebration amongst call concerned.

“I am really psyched, not having seen some of these guys in over forty years”, said Goodwin.

Blitz Magazine will feature highlights of the WKNR reunion, both on Blitz’s web site and Facebook page. The latter can be found at Blitz Magazine - The Rock And Roll Magazine For Thinking People.